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Two Questions form someone who has just bought his first (UK) Goldwing GL1800 2009 model.

1. Where can I get tank protectors to stop scuffing? Just been out for the first ride and scratches on the side of the tank from textile trouser armour.... Are there any specifically for the Wing?

2. There are two red light pods on the bottom of the saddlebags - under the turn indicators. I thought these were brake or running lights but they don't come on...is this a disabled feature for the UK market or is there something wrong? I'd quite like to get these running as secondary brake lights if possible...
 

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Hi Hedgehog, you can get scuff protecters for your tank at wing world, goldwing country, and kuryakyn. They all have websites and ship overseas. Your local dealer may be able to get them easier. For example, my local dealer deals with kuryakyn and can get it overnight. Also, if you are a member of GWRRA, you may be able to get a discount. My dealer gived me 15% off. What about your rear fenders ? There are scuff pads for that area too, to protect where the helmets hang down from the helmet locks. As for the lights, I can't help you, sorry. Good luck !
 

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Scuff talk

Thanks for the research on this tank protector kit. I checked them out and I happen to like the first, chrome one. I don't know when I'll be ready to buy it though. I guess when I get enough scuff I'll have to order it. I didn't know that they make something for scuff protection for the helmet area. I found out that even if you place the helmets in the locks and lean them gently on the bike, they will still scuff your rear end something terrible. I should look into the rear protecors because I don't use the helmet locks, (after the scuffing), but I like using them (locks) for convenience and security.
 

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Thanks Joe....


I figured that the lower lights must be brake and running lights, and now you've confirmed it. But... they don't seem to work. Will have to find out if they are supposed to over here or if, as you say, they are not allowed...

Thanks for all the tank protector info too.


Much appreciated.

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Hi Hedgehog, just an afterthought. You can get scuff pads for your saddlebags too. They go on just behind where the passenger foot rests are. Good luck. Poncho
 

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Thanks for the info Poncho.

It turns out that the lower bake / tail lights are not fitted to the UK model (yet another case of us getting a worse deal than the US, despite the bike cost 40% more)....

There is nopt even a bulb holder behind the lens. Someone has developed a kit though (as with everything Wing) so its a matterf of using this to connect the trunk lights to work these lower ones as well. Not really what you expect on a bike costing over $36,000...

However, its still a brilliant machine, so I'll do it at the same time as fitting some spots to the mirrors and fog lights to the lower cowl.

Took the wife out on it for the first time yesterday. Fantastic. Both loved it.


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Hi Hedgehog,

Pancho has all ready done well with solving your scuffing soI'll just welcome you to the site. 36 K !!! Good grief I guess I won't complain about our price for a new wing - its approaching trade in time for me.

One day soon share with us what you have to do to get a motorcycle license in UK.
 

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Bike Licences in the UK

Hi Hedgehog,

Pancho has all ready done well with solving your scuffing soI'll just welcome you to the site. 36 K !!! Good grief I guess I won't complain about our price for a new wing - its approaching trade in time for me.

One day soon share with us what you have to do to get a motorcycle license in UK.


Thanks Bill.

To get a bike licence in the UK is now very different from when I got mine (1981). In those days a provisional licence (no test - just fill in a form) allowed you to ride a bike up to 250cc (no power limit) - so stuff like the RD250LC was fine...a hairy beast if ever there was one.

To ride bigger than 250cc, you turned up at the test centre (no training required) and the examiner asked you a few questions and then, while he stood on the corner, he watched you ride around the block a few times. One emergency stop and that was it. Total, about half an hour max. CC and power limit was then unlimited on your full licence..

Now there are various routes, depending on age and existing licence entitlements. There are restrictions on engine size and power output for various categories of licence, but all, involve 'CBT' - or Compulsory Basic Training - essentially riding around cones in a car park). There are power restrictions for some time after passing the main test.

There is a direct access route (for people with car driving experience over 21), which is a bit of a short cut, but you still get stuck on a low power machine for ages.

Just glad I got my licence when I did.

The Bike Licence hassle is typical of the bureaucratic nightmare and destruction of liberty (Stands on Soapbox) that's now sadly typical of the UK. Speed cameras everywhere, CCTV in every town, not allowed to own firearms or, in some areas, to drink or smoke in public. These things usually start out for apparently noble ideals, but the end result, unless someone questions it, is that liberty gets eroded away. Ours went down the tubes years ago.

I can't see most Americans putting up with this sort of thing.,... and quite right too. Riding is now one of the only freedoms left - but they are clamping down on it - as the complicated test procedures show. And don't get caught speeding here - offenders way over the limit are now routinely jailed (especially on a bike).

Damn poor show I say.:mad:



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Thanks Bill.

To get a bike licence in the UK is now very different from when I got mine (1981). In those days a provisional licence (no test - just fill in a form) allowed you to ride a bike up to 250cc (no power limit) - so stuff like the RD250LC was fine...a hairy beast if ever there was one.

To ride bigger than 250cc, you turned up at the test centre (no training required) and the examiner asked you a few questions and then, while he stood on the corner, he watched you ride around the block a few times. One emergency stop and that was it. Total, about half an hour max. CC and power limit was then unlimited on your full licence..

Now there are various routes, depending on age and existing licence entitlements. There are restrictions on engine size and power output for various categories of licence, but all, involve 'CBT' - or Compulsory Basic Training - essentially riding around cones in a car park). There are power restrictions for some time after passing the main test.

There is a direct access route (for people with car driving experience over 21), which is a bit of a short cut, but you still get stuck on a low power machine for ages.

Just glad I got my licence when I did.

The Bike Licence hassle is typical of the bureaucratic nightmare and destruction of liberty (Stands on Soapbox) that's now sadly typical of the UK. Speed cameras everywhere, CCTV in every town, not allowed to own firearms or, in some areas, to drink or smoke in public. These things usually start out for apparently noble ideals, but the end result, unless someone questions it, is that liberty gets eroded away. Ours went down the tubes years ago.

I can't see most Americans putting up with this sort of thing.,... and quite right too. Riding is now one of the only freedoms left - but they are clamping down on it - as the complicated test procedures show. And don't get caught speeding here - offenders way over the limit are now routinely jailed (especially on a bike).

Damn poor show I say.:mad:



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Hi Hedgehog, thanks for your info, and for your feelings on your freedoms,I would like to think that my fellow americans won't put up with those things, but with our current admin,I'm not sure anymore.
It is quickly becoming the USSA,United Socialist States of America.
Just my soapbox.Sorry for hijacking the thread!
 

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Hi Hobbit,

Yes these things are Global problems now - but Americans have a great tradition in fighting for liberty... and I hope they manage to resist as much of this nonesense as possible.

Socialism - yes that's interesting. We've had one of the biggest experiments in that (in a Western Democracy) here since the Welfare State came into being in 1945. 'Cradle to Grave' care was supposed to make everyone middle class - educated, decent, healthy etc.

Trouble is - as practiced here anyway, the result has been just the opposite - to drag everyone down to a common (low) level, rather than raise them up. Its also made everyone very passive - completely apathetic in fact. Initiative and indiviudual effort are effectively discouraged and this extends to the top - with the most lacklustre leadership in decades..

Everyone here is so risk-adverse now that in the country that endured the Blitz, all it takes to engender a national panic nowadays is for David Beckham to get a cold. The result of this 'Nanny State' thinking is rule after rule - restrictions and regulations to cover every single thing.

It all starts with a perfectly reasonable premise - e.g. saving lives on the roads - but like anything, if this is taken to the point where it destroys personal freedom then what is the point? For instance, they are now introducing linked speed cameras that can monitor AVERAGE speed of a specific vehicle (using ANPR) over hundreds of square miles. When in these zones you can spend more time watching the speedo than the road... You also feel less than a full and free citizen. We can't remove all risk from life and its seems a mistake to try.


Whatever happens, I hope the US doesn't go the same way - personal freedom and liberty is still something we associate as being an essential demand of the American Psyche.

Long may it continue so.

Rant Over.

Hedgehog.
 
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