If someone with the upgraded bearings were to ride at 40mph and "slap" the bars real good, I would bet money you would see them wobble just like they did before.
I would like to see anyone with any kind of front end on any bike SLAP the handlebars and walk away from it.
The bearings fixed the wobble on my bike, and thousands of others. It is not something that is the same on all Gold Wing 1800, three of my friends one with an 02 one with an 03 and one with an 07 never had the wobble, I didn't have it when my 08 was new, or when I put on a new set of tires, it appears after about 7,000 miles on the tires which at that time the tires are out of balance, which could cause the wobble, centermatics or dyna bears balance the tire every time you ride and those that use them have no wobble and get better mileage from their tires.
Whoa Joe, don't take me so litterally on the "Slap" the bars thing. What I mean is tap em to get them going and see if it continues the wobble.
I do realize that 100's of folks have dome the All Balls and fixed the problem.
My post was not about fixing it, it was about why it happens. Do you not agree that almost all these wobbles happen at about the same speed? If this were a "Tire Balance" issue, it would "wobble" at different speeds on each bike depending how bad out of balance and other factors like location on the wheel where the extra weight is throwing it out.
As far as other bikes not having the wobble at all? That could be simple as over torqued stock bearings in the first place. Then after enough miles on the bike, it finally starts to wobble and gets blamed on a bad tire, ect. Most of these folks go straight to trying tapered bearings, new tire, ect and never try to really figure out what exactly caused it in the first place. All they know is it was broke and the bearings fixed it. And I say BS, the bearings don't fix what causes this and that is just plain simple geometry of the suspension. All the bearings do is help it not to start oscillating in the first place.
I mean look, my 08' didn't develop the "Wobble" till it hit about 1500 miles. And I had read many many stories about it before I bought the wing so I was looking for it right off the show room floor. Not like I just took a while to notice.
I am sticking to my guns on the "geometry Theory" . It is the only thing that makes sense to me due to the fact that, I do not believe that all these thousands of goldwings mysteriously develop an unbalanced tire all at the same mileage, off by the same amount to wobble at all the same speed, ect. And because of the fact that I don't hear this about any other motorcycle make or model with a mass # of bikes all do the wobble at a certain speed.
It is just the nature of the beast as far as the wing is concerned.
And another thing, if this is due to tires out of balance, where are the thousands and thousands of threads about the 1500, 1200, 1100 wings and all those wobble problems??
There aren't any that I know of. Am I suppose to buy into the idea that only the 1800 gets out of balanced front wheels?
I am not arguing with anyone about it. We all have our own opinions on this and above, you see mine. In my mind, the facts all point to a common shared problem in all the "wobble wings". That one constant can not be various different issues all causing the exact same result. It can't be an out of balance tire. Tires do not all wobble at the same speed unless by chance something "common" is happening like a piece of the wheel, wheel weight, ect is coming off the wheel and ALL these affected wings are losing that exact same piece, weight, ect from the same location, causing the same out of balance problem.
Sorry, I just don't buy it. It has to be ONE COMMON thing that all these bikes share to cause the almost exact same condition in every bike. The only thing I can think of the one common thing they do share and that is the exact same stock suspension. The only variable there would be the torquing of the stock bearings from the factory (or dealer). This could explain why some never get the wobble and why some get it much later on than others.