When I ride I neither dress for success nor disaster. Tee shirt or sweatshirt, depending on the temperature, and my trusty Wal-Mart $ 40.00 Brahma work boots and jeans. I had the sweatshirt on today with the other apparel mentioned. Sure, my boots got a little wet, but that was it. This was my first time riding my wing for that length of time in continuous rain. I was very pleased and pleasantly surprised how well the 1800 channels water away. Of course I came off a VTX 1300 with nothing but a windshield. I bought the Frogg Toggs last year in an emergency situation while I was at a dealership. I paid about $ 55.00 for the set. I didn't shop around for quality or performance, I needed something for the 50 mile ride back home. I look at rain gear as a spare tire: If I don't have it, I'll need it. If I need it, it's only for a little while. I will say, however, that the performance of the material does what it is supposed to do, but the quality of the jacket zipper on the style I purchased doesn't seem too durable. I don't plan on it getting daily usage though. And that's a big 10-4 on what marcsvette said below about NOT sweating to death inside them.