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Qualifier: I am just guessing and opinionating, so there is no use getting huffy and puffy with me cause I tell you right now: I don't know what I am talking about.

But here is my rap: I am skeptical of those front tires with a grove right in the middle of it like the Dunnies (E4) or the Stones (709) . Especially the front tires. I think I rather have a tire that is solid right in the middle; like the Metz.

The reason: I wonder if that groove in the middle effects or motivates the wobble, or how exactly the middle groove yields to high speed and turning. Because, whatever one thinks, it seems apparent to me that front tires with middle-grooves must flex differently than ones without, given the same vector centrifugal force on an identical lean. That hole in there, that groove, must prompt a consequence unlike the non-grooved.

Am I reading too much into tire design? Maybe. But I would like to see some scientific evidence of the difference between the centered grooved and the non...I know I ain't gonna see it, I just wish I could.
 

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I agree. That's why I'm going with a rear motorcycle tire on my front. It's going to be a couple of years for me to " wear out " my brand new Stone 709, but I'm going with a tire that has symmetrical tread and plenty of meat on it.


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I was a thinkan'...justta thankan,

that it could be good to go with a 704 rear and a Metz88 in the front.

There were at least a couple of folks in the K16 forum who claimed a couple of different radials provided best mileage.

I do like the 704 and everyone seems to speak well of it, but that front tire middle groove freaks me.

I ran Metz in my 05GL but man! noisy as sheet. Sound like knobbies going around a corner. I mean, tolerable but buggie.

Whatta ya thank?

hey, what is your real name Chopin?
 

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Moreover, What rear motorcycle tire would you put in the front of a Wing, and why would it have 'more meat'?

are you a darksider?
 

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Yes he is and he will be sure to try to convert you



I actually use one of the tires that the Pincess refers to on the front of my trike


The Bridgestone Battlax BT45. It is a sport bike rear tire that is exactly the same size as the front tire on a Wing.


Some folks reverse the rotation (there is science behind that decision) but I did not do that. I have about 8K on my Battlax and it hardly looks worn.
 

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Yes he is and he will be sure to try to convert you



I actually use one of the tires that the Pincess refers to on the front of my trike


The Bridgestone Battlax BT40. It is a sport bike rear tire that is exactly the same size as the front tire on a Wing.


Some folks reverse the rotation (there is science behind that decision) but I did not do that. I have about 8K on my Battlax and it hardly looks worn.

You could be prosecuted under new tire migrations laws. I suggest you have at least, a lawyer present for this post. Anything you say may be used...

Do tell me: What is the science behind putting a non-radial rear tire (am I right?, the BT40 is a tube, is it?)... rear tire for a sports bike on a touring heavy-arses GL front.....


......wait wait wait....I just looked up BT40....that is a car tire....on the front of a GL....nah!, I am sure I ain't gonna be talked into that one.


I do see BT45 but those have a groove in the middle...OMG, I am so confused.:skippy sheep:
 

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The Bridgestone Battlax BT-45. That's the baby. It has three times the tread depth of the front tires the Wing World pushes on us.


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My bad it is the BT45, been out cleaning snow for the last 8 hrs.

Anyway the science is this. Since the rear sport bike tire is designed to handle the torque of the machine under acceleration and the braking stress is much less, the guys will mount it in a reverse rotation because the braking of the front end will be closer to the design of the tires capabilities.




Actually the Michelin Pilot Activ in the same size has the factory backing to do just that. Myself I would not ever run a Michelin but again that's just me.


I like my Battlax very very much
 

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Reverse Rotation

Looking at the orientation of the groves in the picture, it would appear to me that there would be a tendency for water to be channeled to the middle of the tire instead of to the outside as it rotates. Wouldn't this be a concern when driving in the rain?
 

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Ok, lay it on me clearly cause I am a little retarded:

What motorcycle tire do you use on the rear with this BT45? fossil?

So the BT45 is a Bridgestone? and is it tube or radial? and then you have it installed backwards because breaking in the front of a Wing, mimics the forward torque of a sports motto. Excuse me, but that ain't called 'science-of-tire'

How do they handle in the rain and twisties? How do they wear? Noisy? feathering in # of miles?
 

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Looking at the orientation of the groves in the picture, it would appear to me that there would be a tendency for water to be channeled to the middle of the tire instead of to the outside as it rotates. Wouldn't this be a concern when driving in the rain?
Good point!

Why not just put the tire the way it was intended to rotate?
 

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I tried looking for Bridgestones Battlax front/rear combo that would fit the Wing, but apparently there is no such thing

...am I right?
 

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Fellas the size is 130/70/18 it is a Battlax BT45, it is tubeless. It is typically used on the rear of a sportbike.

Now to clarify, I only told you what some folks do and also the reasoning behind it.


I don't have mine mounted in reverse rotation precisely for why was pointed out. I looked at the pattern and deduced the same. I wanted a better contact surface in rain because we do end up in it frequently through our travels.


You guys have to realize that this whole thing began with "Darksiders" looking for longer lasting tires and frankly those folks (although some I love dearly) are a bit fanatical when it comes to an approach.

Myself I am happy getting a few extra and having a better steering tire on the trike





http://wingstuff.com/products/27302-battlax-bt45-sport-touring-trike-tires?context=tires-f6b
 

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Forget about that reverse rotation stuff. It was a fad back in the days or yore. I don't think anyone does that anymore, nor should they.


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Forget about that reverse rotation stuff. It was a fad back in the days or yore. I don't think anyone does that anymore, nor should they.


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Are you still talking? If so, why?
 

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I'm having an intelligent conversation with the only one around. You just blew that.


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Don't you ever get tired of talking about tires? Tires and your extender because your front fender is too short. :grin2:
 
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