I got 3K out of the stock rear. My last two E3 rears have only managed 4k apiece. I love the way my Wing handles and corners. However, after I get back from a week vacation, I will be mounting a Kuhmo Ecsta run flat car tire on the rear to see what all the commotion is about and evaluate a CT performance as compared to MT. Regardless if I like them or not, I will run them till they are worn.