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Gold Wing Audio Comfort Navi XM -- Base MSRP $26,680.00

I'm trying to figure out the best base price out-the-door for a new 2012 Goldwing with navigation, but without airbag and without ABS brakes. I hate haggling, but want to feel like I got a good deal -- the dealer can make a little on the sale, but not too much. Tax in California is 8.25%; licensing is about $400.00 on this type of bike. Any ideas on what the best price should be? I would be writing a check to cover the entire balance due.
 

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Welcome lawlist. I can only offer where I'm at on a new (Cdn) AL model (no airbag but everything else exc XM). I have one on the floor at $30k all included (GST and all set-up included) and no this is not a sales pitch, just FYI. Plate/license up here is a separate entitiy, the dealerships have no hand in that like in the States, Provincial Registries handles that but it's $75 annual I think. I'd be more exact but I always wait until the snow's gone before I pay mine, it comes due in January so no riding until April. Dang Govt get enough of my coin anyway.
Not sure about what it costs dealers across the line for freight and what they build in for set-up but up here freight costs the dealership$265, and it takes us 4 hours to do a proper set-up on one, so $396. Say what you want, these are real dollar and cent costs that do not go away. There is a $1000 rebate on the '12s right now, and that leaves little to no wiggle room left. You'd be more than shocked at what the bottom line is on a Goldwing. Honda USA is a far larger entity than Honda Canada so their incentives may be a tad stronger, but the shops aren't getting rich on these deals. Percentage wise, other businesses gross way higher than the dealerships do, likely the ones that many of you run do too. I know, I've been there on other business ventures myself.
 

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Buy My 2010 Wing, Save Big Bucks

Gold Wing Audio Comfort Navi XM -- Base MSRP $26,680.00

I'm trying to figure out the best base price out-the-door for a new 2012 Goldwing with navigation, but without airbag and without ABS brakes. I hate haggling, but want to feel like I got a good deal -- the dealer can make a little on the sale, but not too much. Tax in California is 8.25%; licensing is about $400.00 on this type of bike. Any ideas on what the best price should be? I would be writing a check to cover the entire balance due.
I have a 2010 Yellow Wing, no nav, no air bag, but a dumptruck load of other accessories. Currently I have under 18,000 miles on it. If interested send a post. Also, the money you save will pay for your flight from CA to FL :) Were talking close to 10,000 savings.
Ride Safe
 

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PM your way buddy.
 

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Do some research on the web for best price. Check eBay, they have a number of dealers who sell on there. I found a dealer in SC that was $4k off of MSRP for my 09 base model..
 

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Lawlist, that's what is advertised on Honda.com for now. Yes our Canadian rebate is $1000, but our MSRP is much higher, $29,999 and there are only tow models up here: one with and one without the airbag, all other equipment is included (Navi, Comfort, ABS) on both. We also only have the non-airbag model in red/silver, and blue/silver only with the airbag. The finance rates down your way are better, 1.9% but I don't know what the terms are. We're 5.9% over 36 or 48 months only. No accessory allowance on either side of the border that I know of, but it could exist down there, I just don't know. bdr, if you got yours at that price, you got a heckuva deal...likely at or even below invoice if that's what you call level 3 down there based on my margins; I assume the percentages would be roughly the same. As I mentioned before, the gross profit margin on bikes (especially Wings) is very low.
 

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Yup, you can't avoid the loan registration fees, it's what the bank charges each customer for writing the paper. Finance brokers also charge an admin fee, it's how they make their money. If your dealer has a business officer, they charge a percentage as well, that's how they get paid (commisions). ESC's and protection packages (usually car dealers for rock guard etc) are other 'value added' upsells that the dealer makes extra on. Up here there's a tire recycling fee ($4 per tire) that the dealer has to pay so that will get added in too, but at least that's a real cost.
Just a word of warning if you're buying an automobile. Be aware of whether they dealer charges extra for the a/c tax, that is ALWAYS already added in on the price of the vehicle. Ask for the window sticker the vehcle is shipped with, it's right there in black and white. That's why most dealers take the stickers off.;) That's another $800 up here. Can't eat that Elmer, it's horse apples:mad:
 

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When I bought my 2010, I was dissapointed that I couldn't get ABS without getting the Navi and XM. If there is an option on the 2012 to get ABS without the XM or NAVI it would be great, but I was told in 2010 there were 3 configurations. Base= NO Air Bag, ABS, Navi or XM.
Then the one with No Air Bag but with ABS XM and Navi.
Then one model with all of it.
Does this sound right? Or is my local shop full of it?:confused:
 

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Ach, telephone keeps interrupting me. The downside to the airbag that I can see is there are sensors and connections to be VERY careful with when doing front end/wheel service work. A wrong move could result in airbag deployment accidentally:eek: No worries if the tech (or you) is careful but it is a caution. I have centramatics to install on my bike and I was going to do it myself, but I'm turning this one over to my tech for that reason. Just doing the wheels on my RC51 made me realize just how much better a trained pro is than I am at wrenching. I want to get better, but I do it way too seldom to be in his league. No way I'd attempt taking the front wheel off my a/b model in my garage now. It can be done, but the calipers have to come off and then the resulting thread cleaning and re-application of '2' different thread lock compounds is enough to deter me. Caliper bolts are steel and the thread bores are aluminum. I won't do it often enough to warrant me purchasing the proper locktites and associated wares to justify having it laying around.
 
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