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pcwins 08-15-2019 07:11 AM

Slow speed instability
 
I am finding my 2018 goldwing 1800B is unpredictable when coming to a stop or in slow speed maneuvers. For me the bike handles differently based upon the amount of gas in the tank. Does anyone else have this problem. I've put it down twice now. I've had harleys, Kawi's and Yamaha's and none were as unstable or unpredictable as the goldwing. I've seen so many comments about its stability at slow speed. My personal experience doesn't back that up. Anyone else experiencing this?

crownfire 08-15-2019 07:48 AM

I think it's a practice thing. Also make sure your front wheel is straight when stopping. If you use the front brake and the wheel is turned to the side, you will likely be picking it up off the ground. Personally I have never thought the amount of fuel in the tank made it feel any different to me. Riding slow I try to use the rear brake only.

budoka 08-15-2019 08:18 AM

Mark hit on a very good point but not sure about the '18 and newer. The previous models did exhibit a tendency to "fall in" when turning a tight slow speed corner and applying the brake lever. I've only had it happen once in s a sudden (panic) stop thanks to a cage cutting me off at a fuel station. Managed to keep the bike upright but it was a tad of a pucker moment. Haven't heard this on the new models though. Hopefully some of the members with the new bikes can shed some light on this.

Luv2fish 08-15-2019 08:44 AM

Many of us use 2nd gear in slow speed maneuvering to avoid the jump/power surge in 1st. Just use the foot brake to adjust speed. Iíve found that tight turns in small spaces are better doing this. Like any motorcycle when youíre going slow you loose the gyroscopic effect that maintains you upright. Couple that with almost 1000 lbs of motorcycle and thatís why we often drop them in slow speed maneuvering.

Good explanation of the gyroscopic effect on motorcycles and counter steering https://auto.howstuffworks.com/motorcycle4.htm

Practice makes perfect (or almost perfect) as Mark pointed out.

Steve



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Wayfarer 08-15-2019 09:04 AM

Rear brake, throttle and clutch. Practice practice practice

dwade 08-15-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 2209115)
Rear brake, throttle and clutch. Practice practice practice

I had trouble with slow speed turns n stops and on the advice of the more experienced riders here took the time to practice with the heavy Wing. Now it is second nature and I have no problems with either.

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budoka 08-15-2019 11:33 AM

Take a slow ride course too. Problem solved. These bikes (any large touring bike) are far more capable than most of us that ride them. The course will show you that and then some.

Wayfarer 08-15-2019 07:30 PM

Jerry the Motorman videos on YouTube helped me a lot. I actually asked our local library to order the full video series and they did.

Oneway 08-15-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by budoka (Post 2209139)
Take a slow ride course too. Problem solved. These bikes (any large touring bike) are far more capable than most of us that ride them. The course will show you that and then some.



Jerry Palladino...Ride Like a Pro. One of the best. I learned a lot from him. As one other said, rear brake, throttle and clutch. Thatís the secret to low speed riding.


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GetAway 08-15-2019 10:56 PM

Stay off of the front break unless your front wheel is straight. If it isn't there's a 99% chance of dropping the bike. Also remember that the Wing has linked breaks. When you apply the rear break the linked system also applies the left front caliper which can pull the wheel to the left.

As others have said, second gear, rear break only, clutch operation and practice. If you happen to drop your Wing, request a IDMWT number... This stands for "I Dropped My Wing Today" It's only a matter of time before this happens to 99.9% of us Wing Pilots.


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