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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-01-2016, 03:01 AM Thread Starter
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Seat Belts For Pillion Passengers

Hi guys,

I've tried searching for it and while there's plenty of mention of "seat belt" they all seem to refer to cars, so now I have to ask ...

I have a 7 year old boy who I'd like to take on my (soon to own) GL1500SE. It has arm rests, but he's intellectually delayed (I'm not joking here, he had brain damage at birth) and I'm concerned about taking him out and not being able to contain him in the seat. He is not physically violent (he won't punch or kick me) but he might want to get up and go for a walk.

Obviously I have the choice to NOT take him. That's a given. I also have the choice of NOT buying the bike, but you KNOW that's going to happen. While it is possible to resist the urge to take him for a ride, it's something that he might very much enjoy and I have this overwhelming desire to do - and do it safely.

So the question is - what are people's thoughts on seat belts? Should they be used at all? What happens if I have an accident and he's tethered to the bike? What happens if I don't have him tethered and he chucks a spaz? (Do you guys understand Strayan colloquialisms?)

Yes, it's safest to NOT have him on the bike. It's also safest to NOT have a motorbike at all. I'm after some ground inbetween, some ideas that someone may have thought of ... is it acceptable to tether him to me?

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It sounds like you are answering your own questions. Be safe. Leave him home so no-one gets hurt.

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As Tom, said I believe your answer lies within.


As for myself, I would not tether him



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I don't know, my thinking is the safest place is staying on the bike in a wreck. The alternative is flying through the air and that tends to not end well anyway. Also it might be a great adventure for your son.

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A 3-wheeler? That hasn't really crossed my mind at all, I'm keen to lean. May as well stay in my Navara!

The little guy is keen as mustard to get on the back of the bike, but everywhere else, he just can't sit still so I can't trust that he's going to stay in the seat. I've told him there's no chance unless he can sit still for 5 minutes. He can manage 3 or 4 seconds, but that's all. It's an improvement on last year's 2 or 3 seconds so we're making progress!

If there's no safe way to do it then there's no way I'll do it. Simple as that. Both of us need to live with the consequences.

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I don't have the same problem with My son, but Mine always goes to sleep with riding. I use a bungee cord and hook it under his arms and to the back rack of the bike. Anyone on this forum that has rode with us has seen me use this method and it works for me. Might consider it. If it worries Your more than a bungee cord can hold than maybe only ride him around the neighborhood on it.
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I don't have the same problem with My son, but Mine always goes to sleep with riding. I use a bungee cord and hook it under his arms and to the back rack of the bike. Anyone on this forum that has rode with us has seen me use this method and it works for me. Might consider it. If it worries Your more than a bungee cord can hold than maybe only ride him around the neighborhood on it.
Speedy, I thought of you when I first read this thread. You are an outstanding rider and I know you completely consider the well-being of your son.
However, this is a whole different situation. I would have to be sure the young man completely understood the dangers.
The thing that bothers me most is seeing a child in pillion wearing shorts and flip flops. Saw a man ride on a dirt bike the other day with his 3 year old daughter on the tank. Neither were wearing a helmet, since it wasn't a main road. They are putting total trust that their parent who is never in complete control. It would kill me if I had even the slightest lay down and hurt a child.
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If you decide to tether him to the bike, you probably need to consider whether or not to provide him the option to free himself. If he is too likely to free himself while riding at speed, then you might want to design and install something that frees his tether or gives him the option to free himself when you vacate your seat.
Raising a "special needs" child clearly has "challenges." My hat is off to you, sir. I suggest that you let your love for him be your guide on what to do. If you need help on how to do it, you have come to the right place.

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A few years ago I rigged a seat belt on an 1800 trike for the rider that was paralyzed from the waist down . He would slide forward on the seat and his shin interfered with the electric shifter. He tried it for a while but didn't like being attached to the bike if it crashed.
I had gotten a lap belt out of a wrecking yard and attached using the front bolts of the passenger hand grips. If you did on the passenger seat it would cross his upper legs, plus he might be able to open it.
When my Grand Daughter rode with me I put a bungee cord between the are rest, but she was not a problem rider.

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