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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-21-2018, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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Problem is back!

So for about a month now ive been having intermittent problems with my bike stalling and idling rough. Well I used it about 5 times since the last time I replaced parts (2 weeks ago), and the problem came back. Something new as well. So I thought maybe it's the fuel pump. as I pulled up to the house, I let it sit there and idle. While idling for about 20 sec's the temp gauge moved to H, and the fans never kicked on. I immediately turned it off and could hear the coolant bubbling. Coolant also came out of tubes from underneath the bike. I let it sit while I changed the oil in my yamaha. About 1 hr later I started the bike, and it keeps stalling. It will stay running if I give the throttle a twist. Bike is a 2006 ABS model with 42K miles on it. I bought it with 38K miles. I feel like ive put alot of work into it since I bought it, and it keeps asking for more. Is this normal for an 06 wing to have so much replaced? I feel as if the previous owner neglected this bike, but it ran fine for about 2K miles. Do you guys think its the fuel filter? I was going to take it to a mom and pop shop on tuesday since I am tired of it not running right, and don't want to keep throwing money at it. Wanted to know what others felt could be the culprit if it's a common issue on this bike. Im starting to believe it might be a computer problem since it's intermittent and the fan's didn't kick on today. Thanks guys

I have replaced:
Air filter
Spark plugs
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Oil change
Shaft fluid changed
Steering bearings (notorious front wobble)
LT front bake pad pad
RT and LT front fork seals
Fuel Charcoal canister
Just put brand new tires on it last week
Headlight and turn signals replaced (a few burnt out)

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LT front bake pad pad??!😁😁 into baking, aren't we? You are not supposed bake while riding. Don't you know?
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Can't guaranty it the same problem but it sounds like it. With out going into a lot of detail, what we found was a poor crimp splice in one of the wire going to the 02 sensor thaat is located just forward of the fuel filler. We trace the wires back into the wire harness on the left side about a foot or so from the sensor. You'll have to remove some tape as you follow the wires to the crimp splice.
We found that with the engine running moving the wires up near the sensor we could make the engine stumble,
replace the crimp slice with a soldered connection

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LT front bake pad pad??!😁😁 into baking, aren't we? You are not supposed bake while riding. Don't you know?
Lol! That would be the previous owner. It was replaced about 3 months after taking ownership.

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You say you could hear the antifreeze boiling and the fans didn't come on . That is not right. If I remember right on my 06 the fans will come on when the temp gauge goes just past the midway point. And no matter how hot the engine got, and it did peg the temp gunge going up Pikes Peak, it didn't boil. So first make sure the cooling system is topped off and the fans are working. Then I would look for a grounding problem. There is a major ground point just between the alternator and the starter on the engine block that seems to go bad. You will probably have to take the fuel tank out to check it.


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I had a 2006 Goldwing. There was a recall because of the temperature gauge rising past normal almost to the H. Then when you took off to ride, the gauge would come back down to normal. There were time when this occurred the bike would stall. They replaced the head, forget which side they replaced. Never had another problem with it.
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Stuck thermostat? Worse, cracked head or bad head gasket maybe? Any updates on your fix DB?

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Stuck thermostat? Worse, cracked head or bad head gasket maybe? Any updates on your fix DB?
Yes there was a fix at this point. Techdude2000 from GL1800 forums (who is know as the GL1800 DR) said that the wiring and C25 connector could be the blame. He said it’s common that the C25 connector over time causes problems. Because the wing was constantly stalling and had 1 over heating issues because the fans didn’t kick on, made him believe it was an electrical problem. After examining, cleaning, disconnecting/reconnecting the C25 connector, checking for loose wires and the entire harness, I must have triggered something. I let it idle for 1 hr and took 2 20 mile trips with it and had zero problems and the fans kicked on when they needed too. I recently took a trip that was over 7 hours, over 350 miles with my fiancÚ, in 85 degree weather, with stop and go traffic, and the wing had no problems. So at this point it is fixed. It surely would have shown it’s ugly face after all that. Techdude said if it comes back that the problem is obvious, it’s the sensor loop down the engine or the C25 connector will need to be “re-done”. So to answer your question she is up and running, whether I fixed it permanently or by “accident”.

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I rode her Saturday (5th) from Abilene to Ft worth, Dallas, Ft worth and back to Abilene, then a few stops in Abilene. Left at 0630 and was back home by 1930 and over 400 miles. She did not give me any issues once again, (knock on wood), must be the new tires I put on her, lol. Just an update of how she's running. We are talking about 900 miles since the last issue, so far so good.

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