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Pardon me, but another tire issue

I agree nando. It's a TOURING motorcycle. But ..... don't think because you run a car tire that you can't cut the curves and scrape foot pegs. A car tire does not limit your abilities. It may even enhance them . Once you get used to that sure footed feel of a car tire there are no holds barred.


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@nando , I'm not a cartire guy, but you have never tried to keep up with Golddragon in the curves with the car tire he has on his Goldwing. A car tire doesn't hinder the rider.

Now I've gotten good use and miles out of Dunlop Elite 3's with 20,000 miles on three different sets of tires. I've switched to Bridgestone and gotten okay miles (about 16,000) and maybe a touch better ride, but definitely not as noisy as the Dunlop.

The channel in the front of the tire has been no issue for me at all no matter the curves or rain.

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@nando , I'm not a cartire guy, but you have never tried to keep up with Golddragon in the curves with the car tire he has on his Goldwing. A car tire doesn't hinder the rider.

Now I've gotten good use and miles out of Dunlop Elite 3's with 20,000 miles on three different sets of tires. I've switched to Bridgestone and gotten okay miles (about 16,000) and maybe a touch better ride, but definitely not as noisy as the Dunlop.

The channel in the front of the tire has been no issue for me at all no matter the curves or rain.
Long ago, in a galaxy far away, when the dark force was strong and I had a CT on my Wing, Yellow Wolf ripped the Dragon on a CT. I am a believer. I am personally not a hot-rodder, but I seen hot-rodding with CT. As weird as it may sound to some, my experience is that CT have better all around grip on a Wing than the current bundle of motto tires.

What I did not like about the DS is the handling, particularly in slow moving traffic, cluttered parking lots etc. I commute during the school year. I didn't think it was overwhelming, it just bugged me, so I went back to motto tires.

I don't need to be convinced that DS works...I guess I am lazy and I liked the power steering so I am trying to compensate...basically, I don't know what I am doing.

This Summer I am gonna do a lot of riding, hopefully...I like that feeling of NOT having to look over your shoulder at tire wear, nor hussle around to schedule a tire change while on the road. So I may try DS again.

What I might do in the future is have a spare rim so I can run the power steering sheety stock tires while Ms. Wing is on commuting duties, and pop the o' CT back on in the Summer, when Ms. Wing goes touring-nuts on the freeways and byways of America. That probably be would the best of both world for me.
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There's positives on both sides for sure. Nice you could ride with the "wolf" though

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There's positives on both sides for sure. Nice you could ride with the "wolf" though
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I never rode with Yellow Wolf. I am so slow, I can't hardly keep the trunk of my Wing from running over me. I just know Wolf did that.

When it comes to riding, I am not worthy to check the air in the Wolf's tires let alone ride with him.

I do recall: he was adamant anti-DS, a couple of us on the board talked into trying one and giving a report. I personally wanted to hear from a great rider how the CT hold up under his skillful abuse. It was his report that finally talked me into trying the dark.

Now this was long ago, so don't quote literally, but I have a recollection that he claimed to have tried to rip the CT off the rim and he could not. Wolf certainly did not convert to DS but he acknowledge the CT held up to his antics.

...for a minute there budoka, I was running with the image of me riding with Wolf, but as most illusion do, it PUFFed!

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He did run a c/t for alt least a while, I remember his comments being more than positive. He left us little folk for that other place though...

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There's positives on both sides for sure. Nice you could ride with the "wolf" though

Agreed, there are pro's and con's on both sides when it comes to tires, for me, I think it is a matter of taste and riding styles.

This is a link to an interesting handbook on the construction of motorcycle tires: http://totalmotorcycle.com/photos/ti...n-Handbook.pdf



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Agreed, there are pro's and con's on both sides when it comes to tires, for me, I think it is a matter of taste and riding styles.

This is a link to an interesting handbook on the construction of motorcycle tires: http://totalmotorcycle.com/photos/ti...n-Handbook.pdf
Great article Terry. Soon as I get more time I plan on reading it carefully.

I noted the 4 basic functions of a motorcycle tire listed in the article.
I would speculate that DS folks would argue that those 4 basic functions are performed better by a CT on a Wing than the current motto snicker.

I am just saying, they would argue that point.

Again, long ago, when I was not with the Rebel forces, some guy did a spot measurement of CT on a lean. In fact, he documented that there was actually more 'area' of contact during a turn with a CT than with a motto tire. He did it by measuring both tires' print on the road/leaning using some kind of chalk or paint on the tires...I can't remember specifically...

Please, I ain't like arguing for one camp nor the other. I am just noting the information posted.

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Hey budoka,

Last I heard about the Wolf was that he had gotten rid of the Wing and was riding some sort of crotchrocket-like bike.

Where is that guy now? I would like to give a howdy-dooty. I always admired his craziness.

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A wore out MC rear tire on a Goldwing is about the same shape as a broke in CT on a Goldwing

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