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Old 07-17-2009, 06:07 AM   #1
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Ok I posted earlier about a 1500se I was looking at now I was curious I test rode a 02 1800 and the bike rides like it is on rails handles just as good as the sports bike I had and I never in a million years expected that.

So my question is would a 95 1500 handle as well as the 02 1800?
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:16 AM   #2
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they say that 1800's handle better than 1500 wings and weigh about 40lbs less. early 1800's had issues with the frame. some frames were repaired some replaced. they say the bags are larger on a 1500
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:38 PM   #3
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To answer your question, "will a 1500 handle as well as a 1800", it depends on how you plan to ride. For crusing and long distance touring the 1500 is just as capable. If you want spirited performance and increased power and great touring, the 1800 wins hands down.

The are both touring machines, but vastly different in their design. The 1500 is a more traditional frame, the 1800 is alumn multi link frame much like a sports bike.

I've owned both, a 98 GL1500 SE and my 09 GL1800. I loved my 1500 but in the 3 months I've owned the 1800, I've come to really like its features and comfort.

The early 1800 had some cooling and frame issues. If the 1800 was properly maintained and all of the recalls were done, I would go for the 1800. JMHO.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:05 PM   #4
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Ok I posted earlier about a 1500se I was looking at now I was curious I test rode a 02 1800 and the bike rides like it is on rails handles just as good as the sports bike I had and I never in a million years expected that.

So my question is would a 95 1500 handle as well as the 02 1800?
I had a 1995 special edition that I traded on on a 2007 1800 with Navi and ABS. While I liked the 1500, the 1800 has much more balance, feels lighter, even though it is heavier, has more room for the passenger, and it is much stabler in the back-draft when passing a tractor-trailer on the freeway. I do not feel like I am being buffeted by the wind as much. Though I loved my 1500, I would not go back.
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I've been watching this one because I'm looking to upgrade my '86 Aspy. So I'm convinced that the 1800 is better handling and certainly no less reliable. However, twice I've seen the comment that the early ones had problems with the frame and cooling. how new do I have to go in order to avoid these issues?
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I've been watching this one because I'm looking to upgrade my '86 Aspy. So I'm convinced that the 1800 is better handling and certainly no less reliable. However, twice I've seen the comment that the early ones had problems with the frame and cooling. how new do I have to go in order to avoid these issues?
I believe both issues were resolved by 2006. Frames were welded or replaced on 1800,s prior to then. If you purchase a 2001-2005 make sure all of the recalls were performed and you should be all right.
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I've been watching this one because I'm looking to upgrade my '86 Aspy. So I'm convinced that the 1800 is better handling and certainly no less reliable. However, twice I've seen the comment that the early ones had problems with the frame and cooling. how new do I have to go in order to avoid these issues?
I would not buy any 1800 before the 2005 model....unless that bike had the frame replaced by Honda with the redesigned frame that is in the 05 and up models. In late 2004 Honda made changes in the frame to fix the frame cracking issue in the frame tubing behind the passanger floorboard that is still a issue with the 01 to 04 models

Here is the typical frame tube crack behind the passanger floorboard on the left side with the 01 to late 04 model.




This is what the frame looks like with the 01 to 04 models




Here is the 05 and up model. Besides this reinforcement Honda made other changes in the frames lugs....making them longer to spread out the frame loads. If the frame doesn't look like this with the 1800 you want to buy, it's better to skip this model and chose another one that does. It's not worth taking the chance with frame cracks and having to deal with Honda over a cracked frame with a bike out of warranty



The 01 to 04 model will always be suspect for frame cracks in the rear triangle of the frame....and no, trailer pulling is not the cause....it's a design flaw with the frame...which is why Honda changed the design in late 04. I have not read about a single frame problem with the 05 and up models....and yes my frame cracked with my 03 at around 45K miles. I have inspected five 01 to 04 models and 3 of those had cracked frames just like the picture above

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welcome to the forum roadie, i had forgotten about the overheating problem on the early 1800's
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welcome to the forum roadie, i had forgotten about the overheating problem on the early 1800's
Thank you.....I never had a problem with over heating with my 03....and never did the "Product Improvement Campaign" that Honda was offering for the 01 to 03 models....never needed too. Besides the frame issue I had... and Honda replaced the frame with the newer 05 and up frame....my 03 has run flawlessly...so far

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Old 08-14-2009, 10:08 PM   #10
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SO......
I just faced this same issue. Decided to get a 1500. The various pre-2005 GL1800's I saw were suspect regarding the frame. The later model GL1800's got too pricey for me. So I went with the GL1500. I rented an 1800 and feel it is more capable in extreme twisties. However, running two-up and touring, the 1500 is at least as capable as the 1800. Its as stable on the hiway, still has tons of power, and is very comfortable. The difference in price is considerable between a 2005 and up GL1800 and a 1500. If you can afford it, go with the best. OR just get a Kawasaki sport bike AND a 1500, and probably spend less money and get the best of both worlds! (my son's liter-class kawa will clearly outrun and outhandle the GL1800).
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